Wednesday, October 04, 2006

Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley (R-West Palm Beach).

"It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential
throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."

On Bill Clinton. 1998.

4 comments:

Yankee, Transferred said...

oh, perfect! People who live in glass houses...

Froggymama said...

My heart goes out to the boys he sexually violated. He's a creep and probably only remorseful because he got caught.

I do agree that most politicians live in a realm of lies. It just angers me that they use their pseudo-morals and ethics to get elected. And now because this guy claims to be sick, we're to feel bad for him and wish him well in recovery (much like Mel Gibson shouting anti-semetic rhetoric). It's not alcohol, it's not a mental disorder, it's a clear choice to violate others.

I just find it interesting that the very people who preach family values and make movies about Jesus are the biggest hypocrits of all. They are the first to chastise others for their belief systems, and the last to take real responsibility for their own. If this congressman came out and said, "I did this, because I knew I could get away with it," I would have more respect for him. Because that would have been an honest answer. And isn't honesty the first step to real recovery? And likewise for Mel. At the very least, admit you're a jerk, and then start making excuses for it.

It's just so easy and expected to pull a Jimmy Swaggert, but wouldn't it be refreshing if someone said, "I only act the way I do to get what I want. I wanted your votes and approval, and now I want your forgiveness."

And so you don't think I'm biased because he's a republican, I didn't believe Bill's apology either. :)

Sorry for going-off a bit. I'm a little bitter about politics right now.

Mieke said...

Wow! Froggy Aunt. You have a very cynical view of man. I disagree with you powerfully and a million times over. Is this really how you view the world? Who teaches you this morbid view? I'd be curious exactly where in the new testament it says that.

You wrote:

"Man cannot and will not be good. His heart is permeated with evil...Jesus is the answer."

I am constantly surrounded by the kindness of strangers, the love and good deeds of people around me. Sure there are horrible people in the world who do terrible things but there are more people who do good - they just don't make headlines. We all have freewill. Where do you live that you view mankind through such a distorted lense? Maybe you should spend more time in Los Angeles with Froggymama away from all the evil you see around you.

How does this theory of yours work? Do you think Froggymama and Froggy's hearts are permeated by evil? Froggy is too young to know Jesus, so until she does is her heart permeated with evil? Is your idea that she cannot and will not be free of that evil until she knows Jesus? If children's hearts are not permeated with evil at what point does that evil enter?

How does this idea of yours work? Does knowing Jesus purge the evil from the heart or is it always there lurking? How do you explain my tender and loving Jewish heart? Froggymama is loved and supported by many many people here in Los Angeles (most of whom do not accept Jesus as their personal savior). People who have never met her or Froggy sent love and money to support her walk to find a cure. A man I met on the airplane and never saw again the week we found out about Froggy's illness was so moved he sent $250. My client's wife (with her two babies in the car) just got a flat tire on a major highway and a man stopped to change it for her. A man Froggymama hardly knows has been very generous to her to help her care of Froggy. I could go on and on about the kindess I see on a daily basis. I love people. I love their generous spirits and acts of kindness and love. I am surrounded by them. All you have to do is ask Froggymama about the support she got when the trouble first started to appear with Froggy. She was enveloped in love and support - even before we knew what was going on. Come on out to L.A. to feel the love.

Mieke said...

You miss my point. There is a huge difference between saying we sin and as you said, “man cannot and will not be good. His heart is permeated with evil."
Romans 3:23 and Luke 11:4 say nothing of a heart dominated by evil or man's inability to be good. I bristle at your extreme language.

Teshuva is used not only to repent to god but, most frequently, to each other. If I hurt someone's feelings and I know I have, and feel remorse, I have a responsibility to make amends, to apologize, and resolve never to do it again.

So your theory then is that Froggy is a sinner and until she knows god or Jesus and repents those sins, she sits in her sin-filled heart?

You believe in a supernatural god. I don't. I don't believe in divine intervention, god's will, or a master plan created by god.

I believe Froggy's CF is a result of a terrible genetic lottery and was not created in our sweet baby by the hand of god for some divine purpose that has yet to be reveled to me. I do believe in the stem cell research and the scientist who could eliminate the lethal consequence of CF.

I do not believe in the god you believe in. I do not believe there will ever be a “chosen one”, however I do believe unequivocally it essential to work to create a world in which every human being chooses to do the right thing and to work towards peace on earth. I am not waiting for anyone. It's my job to try to create that world NOW.